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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 94 18:41:23 PDT
From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu>
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Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #406
To: Info-Hams
Info-Hams Digest Mon, 11 Apr 94 Volume 94 : Issue 406
Today's Topics:
Amateur Radio Newsline #869 08 Apr 94
Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin #154
STOP SENDING HAMS ON USENET CRAP !!!
VE8YEV Expedition
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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 11:18:36 MDT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!panix!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Amateur Radio Newsline #869 08 Apr 94
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
The electronic publication of the Amateur Radio Newsline is distributed
with the permission of Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF, President and Editor of
Newsline. The text version is edited from the original scripts and
transcribed from the audio reports by Dale Cary, WD0AKO, and is first
published in The Radio & Electronics Round Table on the Genie Online
System.
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send them via E-Mail to 3241437@mcimail.com or B.PASTERNAK@genie.geis.com.
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They are archived in /pub/hamradio/docs/newsline/ as newsline.nnn, (the
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[869]
The following is a QST
Killer tornadoes sweep through the southeast and ham radio is
there to provide communications in the wake of the devastation.
Also, a California judge says the Part 97 rules give his court
jurisdiction over ham radio on the air operations. He orders two
more hams to stay off a repeater.
(*****
SOUTHEASTERN TORNADOS
Some chilling moments from the March 27th tornado outbreak
that killed more than 40 people in the Southeastern U.S. Amateur
radio operators helped the public by providing Skywarn and other
emergency communications. Alabama was hardest hit by the storms.
Some dramatic storm spotting and damage reports were captured on
tape:
"This is N4KMJ, Jack in Goshen Valley at the Goshen Methodist
Church. The roof has exploded. I see one house, the top all
gone. Power lines down. Vehicles wrecked. I am approaching the
church more now. N4KMJ, rescue squad is on scene."
That was one of the first reports coming from the Goshen
Methodist Church near Piedmont, Alabama. That's where 21 people
-- including six children -- died when a tornado slammed into the
church during Palm Sunday services. Skywarn nets were active
across more than half the state.
"This funnel cloud is definite I mean it is real formed right
now. But I can't hear any roar but there is a lot of lightning
goin' on, KC4KWX."
In some areas, tornadoes strike twice.
"The tornado has touched down in the Macedona area of Raglin.
Second tornado, I repeat Macendona area of Raglin second touch
down."
"Roger, Roger, I copy second touch down. Will advise National
Weather N4YYQ."
Reports of large hail were common.
"We're experiencing hail at the present. Probably marble
sized is what it would be considered and getting larger, comin'
down pretty steady."
"We had golf ball sized hail at the bridge. I probably have
several dents in the car."
Hams stayed at the National Weather Service near Birmingham
for nearly 10 hours.
"W4CUE, NWS looking for severe weather reports only."
Palm Sunday 1994 has a new name in Alabama: Tornado Sunday.
It's a day residents in the South will never forget.
In Georgia the state's ARES net was activated Sunday
afternoon following reports of the tornadoes in Alabama.
Amateurs manned nets in 12 counties in the storm's expected path.
Local 2 meter net reports were funneled to the Georgia ARES net
on 3975 khz, with liaisons to both Alabama and South Carolina.
From there spotting reports were relayed to state Red Cross
Headquarters in Atlanta. Nearly a dozen repeaters were used for
emergency nets.
(*****
TORNADO HAM TRAGEDY
The tornadoes in Alabama also brought personal tragedy to Jack
Blair, N4KMJ. He's the ham who made the first report you just
heard in the story about damage to the Goshen Methodist Church.
As Jack moved closer to the church, he learned that his daughter
had been injured, and his wife was among those killed when the
building collapsed. We know you join with us in wishing Jack's
daughter a speedy recovery from her injuries and in offering
condolences to the Blair family on their tragic loss.
(*****
CAL STATE COURT DECLARES JURISDICTION OVER HAM RADIO
A California Superior Court judge says that state courts at
least state courts in California do have jurisdiction over the
on-air activities of ham radio operators. In taking this
position Judge Robert Hutson has also banned two hams from using
a private repeater.
Judge Hutson quoted chapter and verse from section 97.313,
subpart E of the FCC rules in making his decision. A decision
we reported last week to grant a petition from the Claremont
Amateur Repeater Association to issue a permanent restraining
order barring Anthony Cardenas, WA6IGJ, and Drew Feldman, N3KSO,
from operating on the clubs repeaters or taking part in any club
activity.
The latest revision of Section 97.113, subpart E of the
Amateur Radio rules and regulations states in part that any radio
amateur in his operations obey all federal, state and local laws.
It was only after talking to Sidney Radus, N6OMS, the attorney
for CLARA that the scope of the judge Hutson's decision became
evident.
"The argument that the other side was making was that only a
federal court had jurisdiction. That the federal government had
preempted all of these areas. What he found was that since
federal law applied, but state and local law also applied, then
there is no preemption and the states are free to act." Radus
Radus added that it was his view that this loophole in
federal regulation applies only to the on the air operation of a
radio amateur in cases where his or her operation may cause harm
to other hams. He doubts that it could be construed as giving
states and municipalities total control over Amateur Radio
operations because this appears to be the only place in Part 97
where the FCC gives any authority to other jurisdictions. Most
other experts in ham radio legal issues we have spoken with seem
to agree with Radus.
The restraining orders against Cardenas and Feldman came just
a bit more than a month after another Orange County Superior
Court judge granted the clubs request for a similat order against
Tim W. Seawolf, KJ5KE.
Its reported that Feldman has announced, on the air, that he
will be filing an appeal.
(*****
LICENSE DOWNGRADES
This just in. Word that the FCC has mailed out between sixty
and seventy letters to hams throughout California canceling
license upgrades. This, in connection with the governments
continuing probe into wide spread testing irregularities
statewide. Most of the license downgrades are believed to be in
Southern California and involve sessions run by a number of
volunteer examiners that the government has temporarily had
banned from the V.E. testing program. None of the names or call
signs of those downgraded have been released by the FCC. All
were given sixty dates to take a retest or face the loss of their
higher license privileges. Word is that some of those who have
lost their upgrades took their tests as far back as late 1991
and early 1992. That's all the information we have right now.
More on the continuing California V.E. probe in future Newsline
reports.
(*****
W5YI LICENSE RENEWAL SERVICE
W5YI Report publisher Fred Maia seems to have become
embroiled in another controversy not really of his own making.
This one involves a mailout of his company of a renewal reminder
to hams who'se licenses are about to expire. For a fee of five
dollars, Fred's company offers to handle the license renewal
paperwork. This is not unlike companies that provide this kind
of a support for land mobile radio, broadcast and other FCC
licensees.
Fred told Newsline that he is providing the service at cost
as a way to advertise. But some hams seem to view it in another
light. Already there have been several messages appearing on the
national packet radio network warning of what the origionaters
call a license renewal scam. The text of one of these postings
all but says that the W5YI license renewal service is illegal.
Another goes so far as to call it fraud. Others simply point out
that any ham can get a form 610 from the FCC, fill it out, sign
it and send it in at no cost other than postage.
Nor is the W5YI Group the only license renewal service
operating. The American Radio Relay League has undertaken the
same project, but only for its members only and with no fee
involved. League members will receive a notice about 90 days
before their license expiration date, along with an FCC Form 610
and an envelope addressed to the FCC.
In reality, the Leagues license renewal service is not free.
You must be an ARRL member to use it and that membership costs
thirty dollars a year. And there are also rumors that several
V.E.C.'s and a number of ham radio database companies may get
into the license expiration reminder and license renewal service
as well. What charges will be made by these groups, if there are
any, are unknown.
The bottom line is this. What Fred Maia and his W5YI group
are doing is legal. License renewal services may be new to ham
radio, but they have been around in other services for years.
And as ham radio continues to grow at a rate of 6000 to 7000 new
hams a month, there is a lucrative market developing for all
kinds of products and services including license renewals. Look
for more services like this one to spring up in the months and
years to come.
(*****
FREE ARRL LETTER
Another ham radio newsletter price war may be on the horizon
with word that the American Radio Relay League has decided to
give away its ARRL Letter free of charge. But there is a catch.
The catch is that you have to be an ARRL affiliated radio club
to get the truly bargain rate.
The league says that it is limiting the free distribution of
the ARRL Letter to the Editors of these club newsletters.
Staffers at Headquarters have already mailed out the offer of a
free one year subscription to qualifying newsletter editors.
No word from W5YI Report publisher Fred Maia as to whether he
plans to match the league's free offer. The Westlink Report ham
newsletter has already said that it will not.
(*****
DAYTON SAREX
It's April and that means Spring in this part of the world.
Time to get out and work on antennas, fix up the house and for
thousands of hams... go to Dayton for the Hamvention.
For more than ten years, amateur radio operators have carried
ham gear with them into space. They call the program SAREX, The
Shuttle Amateur Radio EXperiment. More than a dozen flights have
given thousands of students in schools all over the world the
thrill of experiencing space close up and personally by taking
part in two way conversations between kids on campus and
astronauts aboard Columbia... or Endeavour... or Discovery, 200
miles above the earth, spinning along at 17 thousand miles an
hour.
Teachers say this highly visible exposure has generated so
much enthusiasm that several hundred youngsters have gone on to
get licensed and now are members of the amateur radio fraternity.
SAREX is sponsored by the ARRL, AMSAT and NASA and is
controlled by an appointed board called The SAREX Working Group.
To celebrate its tenth anniversary, the Group accepted an
invitation to stage a Forum at Dayton. Astronaut Tony England,
W0ORE, who operated Slow Scan TV and voice back in 1985, will
join Command Pilot Steve Nagel, N5RAW, who flew two SAREX
missions in the nineties, to tell us what it's like from an
astronauts' point of view.
The Working Group itself will make a rare appearance. Rosalie
White, who heads the Educational Activities Department at ARRL
headquarters and works with the schools that are chosen to take
part in SAREX, will team up with Frank Bauer, the AMSAT Vice
President or Manned Space Flight who sets up the ground stations
and telebridges that bring the astronaut signals to the
classrooms. Lou McFadin, the Principal Investigator from the
Johnson Space Center will demonstrate the SAREX equipment. Roy
Neal, K6DUE as Chairman will introduce the players and describe
our proud history.
Several SAREX pioneers are flying in for the occasion. Bill
Tynan, President of AMSAT; Doug Loughmiller, a former AMSAT
President; John and Karen Nickel, who helped form the SAREX team;
all plan to share their experiences.
Add several teachers and some students telling what it was
like for them... plus questions and answers with the audience...
and you have what promises to be a major highlight, Saturday
afternoon at the Dayton Hamvention this year.
I'm Roy, K6DUE, for Newsline.
The SAREX forum will take place Saturday, April 30th at the
1994 Dayton Hamvention in Dayton Ohio. We'll see you there.
(*****
WESTLINK YOUNG HAM OF THE YEAR
A reminder from the Westlink Report ham radio newsletter that
the nominating period for its annual Young Ham of the Year Award
closes on Saturday April the 30th. The Westlink Report Young Ham
of the Year award was conceived to honor the younger members of
the Amateur Radio Community. Hams aged 18 and younger who have
used Amateur Radio to significantly contribute to the benefit of
the service, to their community or the nation are eligable.
With corporate underwriting from Yaesu USA, the 1994 winner
will receive a trip to the Sea Pac convention, a piece of ham
radio equipment and a special plaque denoting his or her
accomplishments.
All nominations must be submitted on an official application
available for a self addressed stamped envelope to the Westlink
Report Young Ham of the Year, 28197 Robin Avenue, Saugus, CA
91350. The winner will be announced in early May.
(*****
Mc Gan Award
Nominations are solicited for the 3rd Annual Philip J. McGan
Memorial Silver Antenna Award for volunteer public relations
efforts on behalf of Amateur Radio. Nominees must be full ARRL
members in good standing and not be an officer, Director, Vice
Director, or paid ARRL staff member. Nominations are due by May
31, 1994, and must be made on official nominating forms, which
are available from ARRL HQ, 225 Main Street, Newington Ct. 06111.
(*****
BLANCHARD OBITUARY
Finally, last week, Newsline brought you the touching story of
Frank Blanchard, AA4LB, in Birmingham, Alabama. Frank received
a special honor in mid-March from fellow members of the
Birmingham Amateur Radio Club. He was named this year's
recipient of the Club's annual Citizenship Award. Due to a
critical illness, Frank received his plaque early, during a
special surprise visit to his hospital room. It was a very
emotional presentation and one that won't be forgotten. We're
saddened to tell you that on March 30th barely two weeks after
receiving his award, Frank lost his battle with cancer. Frank
Blanchard, appreciated for all the ways he found to help others,
was just 56 years old.
(*****
For this week, that's all from the Amateur Radio Newsline.
You can write to us at Post Office Box 463, Pasadena, CA 91102.
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Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 16:24:27 -0600
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!panix!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin #154
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SB DX @ ALLBBS $OPDX.154
Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin No. 154
The Ohio/Penn Dx PacketCluster
DX Bulletin No. 154
BID: $OPDX.154
April 11, 1994
Editor Tedd Mirgliotta, KB8NW
Provided by BARF-80 BBS Cleveland, Ohio
Online at 216-237-8208 14400/9600/2400/1200/300 8/N/1
Thanks to the Northern Ohio Amateur Radio Society, Northern Ohio DX
Association, Ohio/Penn PacketCluster Network, DL7VEE & DXNL, DF4RD,
OH3MEP, ON6TT, NA2M, W2QM, WB3JFS, K8CEF & Southeastern Cluster Group,
KF8VW, W8XD, WD0GML and N0TG for the following DX information.
9G, GHANA. The DX NewsLetter (DXNL) reports that Peter, ex XT2BW, is
now active as 9G1PW. He was heard on the Ohio/Penn DX Network, April
4th, on 21297 kHz at 1428z. He left XT-land at the end of January and
is supposedly to be in Ghana (on vacation with his family) for 2 to
3 months. QSL via WB2YQH after his return.
9N, NEPAL. The DXNL reports that Marlo, IK3HAQ is trying to become
active from Nepal from April 6-24. No other details were given.
9X, RWANDA. After announcing his extented stay until the end of May,
Paul, F6EXV, who is active as 9X5DX, may be coming home sooner than
expected. According to the news wires, foreigners began fleeing the
country Friday, April 8th. French paratroopers landed at the airport
in Kigali, and a massive evacuation has begun with some 600 French and
other foreigners leaving Rwanda. Paul has not been heard since April
4th on the Ohio/Penn DX Cluster Network. Everyone is hoping that Paul
is well.
CY9, ST. PAUL ISLAND. Plans are in the works for a July 1-7 operation.
The operators will be KW2P, WA4DAN, AA4VK, N0TG and possibly W0RJU. This
is the same group that was active from KP1 and KP5 in 1992/1993. The
group has landing permission and arrangements for the boat has been
made. More details will be announced later.
HV, VATICAN. It has been reported that Bob, N2EDF, will be active from
HV4NAC, April 14-19. There was no specific bands or frequencies or QSL
route mentioned.
JY, JORAN. Ibrahim, JY5IN, sometimes shows up on a DX Net on 14243 khz
around 0615z or on 14247 kHz around 2230z.
OH0, ALAND ISLAND. It looks like there will be plenty of activity during
the month of April. Pete, OH3MEP, states he will be active as OH0MEP
for one week beginning April 16th. Also, around the same time, begin
looking for OH0NLP, OH0LQK, OH0LIU, OH0LYA and OH0KAG. Some of the
stations will be active on all bands, RTTY and the satellite.
PACIFIC DXPEDITIONS. Ron, ZL1AMO, will be active sometime next week as
3D2RW. He has other plans which are not complete as of yet, but there
are good possibilites that Ron will be active from C21, T28RW and ZK3.
He is especially interested in a trip to T30 (because he has never been
there).
V4, NEVIS AND VP2E, ANGUILLA. NODXA members (Jack/KB8WC and Scott/KO8O)
and some users of the Ohio/Penn DX Cluster Network will be on their
annual Spring Caribbean DXpedition, starting April 18th, signing VP2EOH.
QSL via K8BL.
On Thursday, April 21st, Jack and Scott, will fly to Nevis and operate
as V47WC on SSB, and V47RS on CW. QSL V47WC via KB8WC and V47RS via
KO8O. They will return home on April 27th, so that they will recover in
time for the Dayton HamVention.
VP8, ANTARCTICA. Gavin, VP8GAV, continues to be active from the British
Antarctic base of Rothera. He has been heard between 3500 and 3506 kHz
around 0515z; and again between 1015 and 1100z. He also shows up on 20
meter CW or SSB, starting around 0030z on 14017 or 14245 kHz. QSL via
GM0LVI.
OH YEA! DID YOU HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THE CARDS FOR .......?
3Y0PI CARDS. Peter, ON6TT, (one of the operators) released the
following statement on April 7th: "The 3Y-cards are in print as of
today. They will be finished by the end of April. Once we receive
the cards from the Belgium printer, they will be sent to the states.
Expect the cards to come out as of May." Also QSL Manager Jerry,
AA6BB, has stated that the labels are now 75% completed from the
logs.
FS/W2QM CARDS. Dave, W2QM, states, that cards for his 1993, Decemeber
1-8, operation have started going out in the mail. All should be out
in a few weeks.
KG4CI AND KGWP CARDS. QSL cards for this KG4 operation between February
24th and March 2nd by Nellie/XE1CI and Dave/WQ5Y should have been
shipped from the printer and should be in the hands of Dave (as of
April 7th). Since each operator will be responsible for his/her
QSLing, half of the shipment of cards will be sent to Nellie in
Mexico City. Just a reminder, QSL KG4WP to WQ5Y and KG4CI to XE1CI.
Do not QSL to the KG4 Bureau.
VQ9TV QSL MANAGER CHANGE. Mike, WD0GML, informed OPDX that Floyd Gerald,
N5FG, is the new QSL manager for Bill Rowe, VQ9TV. Floyd has all of
Bill's logs and can respond to all QSL requests for VQ9TV. QSLs can
be sent to: Floyd Gerald, 4706 Washington Ave., Gulfport, MS. 39507.
FAX YOUR DX INFORMATION NOW! Faxing is available Monday/Wednesday/Friday
from 0430 to 2330z only. The number is 216-237-8208 and the FAX card is
sharing the same phone line as BARF-80 BBS using a data/fax/phone switch.
Excerpts and distribution of The OPDX Bulletin are granted as long as
OPDX/BARF80 receive credit. To contribute DX info, call BARF-80 BBS
online at 216-237-8208 14400/9600/2400/1200/300 and leave a message with
the Sysop or send InterNet Mail to: aq474@cleveland.freenet.edu or send
BitNet Mail to: aq474%cleveland.freenet@cunyvm or send PRODIGY Mail to:
DFJH48A or send a message via packet to KB8NW @ WA8BXN.OH.USA.NA
/EX
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Tedd Mirgliotta KB8NW
InterNet: kb8nw@barf80.nshore.org
Basic Amateur Radio Frequency BBS (BARF-80) +1 216/237-8208
"Totally devoted to Amateur Radio" - 24 Hrs a day 8/N/1 14.4k-300 baud
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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 94 18:37:13 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!panix!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!adec23!mark@network.UCSD
Subject: STOP SENDING HAMS ON USENET CRAP !!!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
gilbaronw0mn@delphi.com (Gilbert Baron) writes:
>Please explain why crossposting does not use more bandwidth. Inquiring minds
>would like to know. 10k x 2 lists is 20k of data.
Because the article is but one, with a reference to all the other groups
that may have interest in it. 10k x 1 newsgroup with 3 other newsgroups
referenced is still just 10k of bandwidth (but perhaps 40k or 4 repeats of
the article presented to the newsreader bandwidth if your newsreader is borken
and has no concept of cross-posting, even the first newsreader packaged with B
news didn't have this bug. A newsreader typically can be configured to present
this one article in the first group in the list, or in the first group you
read that has this article cross-posted in the list).
The Newsgroups line on the *one* article is:
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.info,news.answers,rec.answers
>>The exception is when someone has a feed that gets one of the groups and
>>not the other. Then I agree, he might have a valid point if he says
>>that it is a waste of bandwidth _on that link_.
>
>Huhhhhhhhhh if it gets only one then you have less data going across. It
>jsut does not make sense to me.
Not a problem, but what he means is that the article will be fed as *one*
article if any *one* of the newsgroups is in your feed list. If the idea is
to eliminate the article from the feed, then one would put in:
...,!rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc,...
which would remove all rec.radio.info articles, *including* the one cross
posted to rec.radio.amateur.misc.
Do not confuse cross-posting with multiple posting, multiple posting being
the most evil act a USENET user can perform, the antichrist of USENET so
to speak ... :-)
Ciao, 73 de VE6MGS/Mark -sk-
You owe the Oracle a full feed.
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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 20:53:25 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!panix!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!gov.nt.ca!@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
Subject: VE8YEV Expedition
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
The Inuvik Amateur Radio Club would like to thank everyone who
made our expedition to Hendrickson Island, Northwest Territories
a success. We would especially like to thank all the operators
for their patience under very poor band conditions and the
relative inexperience of the expedition members in dealing with
such large pileups.
The expedition departed Inuvik Friday morning as planned,
travelling in three vehicles over the "ice road". The road
stretches 200km over the Mackenzie River and the Beaufort Sea
ice from Inuvik in the Mackenzie River Delta to the community
of Tuktoyaktuk on the Arctic coast. This road passes within
15km of Hendrickson Island at which point the equipment was
loaded into a sled and pulled by snowmobile across the sea ice
to the island in two trips. Within an hour of arrival a 20m
dipole was erected and the first station went on the air using
solar panels and batteries. Over the next several hours antennas
for the other bands were erected, including the homebrew vertical
at 50ft. that was used for the bulk of the contacts on 20 meters.
Propogation was very poor for the duration but steady contacts
were being made and at one point 20m, 40m and 80m were all open
and being worked by the members. In all only 300 contacts were
made over the 24 hour duration of the expedition but considering
the band conditions at the time that is more than was expected.
The island group is now officially North America 192, Inuvik
Region West.
Please QSL via VE8NC. Cards are being printed this week and
should be ready for distribution before the end of the month.
Due to the poor conditions, anyone who is unsure if they made
a good contact are invited to send a note via internet to
ve8ev@inukshuk.gov.nt.ca and I would be happy to reply as to
whether or not they appear in the log.
73
VE8EV John Boudreau
VE8NC David Musselwhite
VE8GC George "Red" Cheyney
VE8CF Carl Falsnes
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